We're Kate and Rob, two Americans (and soon-to-be Italian citizens) living la dolce vita in  Florence, Italy. We blog about Italian dual citizenship, life in Italy, cooking, travel and more! First time here? Read more about us and check out our 2011 Year in Review.

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We're Kate and Rob, two Americans (and soon-to-be Italians) living la dolce vita in Florence, Italy. We blog about Italian dual citizenship, life in Italy, cooking, travel and more!

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Thursday
Dec092010

Moving to Italy: Codice Fiscale

All Italians (and just about everyone spending an extended period of time in Italy) have what is called a codice fiscale. It's an alphanumeric code that serves as a legal identifier for each person. Some people compare it to a social security number, but it has far more uses than an SSN and isn't as private.

In Italy, you need a codice fiscale to rent an apartment, buy a cell phone, enroll in the health care system, open a bank account, enroll in a class, make select purchases online, etc. The list goes on. You need it for everything and, in particular, anything that requires a contract of any sort. Unlike a SSN, you don't need to be a citizen of Italy to apply for a codice fiscale...anyone can get one.

As a foreigner, there are two ways apply for your codice fiscale. The first is to apply once you arrive in Italy. You go to the local Agenzia delle Entrate and apply in person. But, if you're like us and trying to complete the rental process before you arrive, you absolutely need it beforehand. As such, the second way to apply  for a codice fiscale is through your nearest Italian Consulate.

We applied through the Italian Consulate in Philadelphia a few weeks ago and found them very efficient and communicative. They called for additional documentation from Rob and within a week we received our two codes. In about 2-3 more weeks, we'll receive the official cards from the Italian government.

We're thankful the process of requesting the codice fiscale went so smooth and happy to cross another "to do" off our move list.

Monday
Oct252010

italian dual citizenship: the d.i.y. approach

Rob and I are DIYing (do-it-yourself, for those that aren't familiar with the acronym) most, if not all, of the tasks associatd with moving abroad. It is just a more cost-effective route for us. That being said, we are still collecting quotes for everything. Why? It's a huge shot of confidence to know that you have saved yourself X amount of dollars.

Case in point? I don't want to jinx it, but last week we filed the legal papers to get my grandfather's birth certificate amended. When I say file, I mean we wrote the petition and the proposed order ourselves and then filed them ourselves. After receiving a quote from a law firm for $1,500, we knew the best route was DIY.

We went to US Legal Forms and downloaded templates for the documents we needed to file. Then, we customized them to fit our specific situation. Clearly, Rob and I both missed our callings toward legal careers, because we spent hours debating the semantics of the documents.

There is a chance when the court clerk reviews the documents that we will need to fix certain things before they go on to the judge -- in fact, we've already mentally planned for it. But even if we have to pay the filing fees again, we are still saving around $1400 doing it ourselves. Sweet!

In many states, amending vital records is a pretty straightforward process. Not in Pennsylvania! You literally need a court order to get typos fixed. We are hoping to have the amended birth record in hand and apostilled by Christmas. Cross your fingers for us!

Lessons Learned

  1. Get quotes for everything! It's good for budgeting, as well as knowing what you may save by doing things yourself.
  2. Google like crazy -- it's almost a guarantee that someone has dealt with the same exact situation. Even the tiniest bit of insight can clarify questions that you may have.
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